Frequently Asked Questions
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Fourteeners

Official Fourteener?
Q: Who determines when a summit is an "official" Fourteener.
A: The short answer is the U.S.G.S.; the basic problem is the 300 foot — 1 mile 'rule' which states that for a second summit to be a Fourteener it must be 300 feet higher than the saddle low point and at least one-mile away from its higher neighbor. See 14er Sub-Peaks for more information

Fourteeners Rank?
Q: How come several 14ers have the same rank?
A: If two or more 14ers have the same elevation, then they will have the same rank.

Fourteener Names?
Q: Occasionally the Fourteener names used in your books, calendars and the website do not agree with books by other authors, how come?
A: Above the Timber tries to use U.S.G.S. names and elevations exclusively,  if you find an error relative to the U.S.G.S. database, please send an email.

Diente?
Q: Did Diente really climb every Fourteener?
A: Every one!!! Sometimes more than once in a day.

Products

Fourteeners Poster?
Q: If there are 54 Fourteeners, how come their are only 40 photographs on the Fourteener IIb poster and 39 on Fourteeners III and 4?
A: Many of the photos contain 2 or more summits, would you separate the Maroon Bells?

Q: If I've seen a Fourteeners Poster, How can I identify which one it is?
A: There are/were 4 major Fourteeners Poster generations, and a minor difference in version 2, yielding 5 unique Fourteeners Posters.  Click this link for a large photo of each.  The title and ISBN appear, bottom center, this table may help:

CD-ROM Screen Savers?
Q: Is there a screen saver that works on the Apple Macintosh?
A: No, the screen saver only works on computers running Microsoft Windows.

Q: How do I get a photo for a wallpaper?
A: No wallpaper ability exists.

Orders

Discounts?
Q: Does Above the Timber offer discounts for larger orders?
A: Yes, check the discount schedule on each order form.

Credit Cards?
Q: Does Above the Timber accept credit card orders?
A: No, retail orders represent only small portion of Above the Timber's annual sales, hence the start-up and annual cost of this service does not justify the expense.

Telephone Orders?
Q: Why doesn't Above the Timber accept retail telephone orders?
A: The answer is twofold: 1) read credit card orders above; 2) Above the Timber is located "Off-the-Grid," that means no land lines including phone.  Currently the only "fast" contact is via 2-way wireless internet email.

Photo Prints?
Q: I want a special photograph of a Fourteener as a gift for a friend, does Roger Edrinn produce one-of-a-kind fine art photographs?
A: Yes, but they are very expensive due to the time and materials involved. Photo Prints 

Autographs?
Q: Does Roger Edrinn provide autographed copies of his books?
A: Yes!  The logistics might slow the shipment, the autograph is free.

Voice Mail?
Q: I've tried numerous times to talk to someone and I always get the answering machine, How come?
A: Above the Timber is off the grid, no phone wires, therefore the only telephone contact is through the answering machine.  Call backs are always delayed, sometimes several days.  Use the email links for the fastest response.

Private Information?
Q: The order form requests email, do you share or sell this information?
A: Never, Never, Never, its only requested in case there is a question on your order.

Photo Submissions

Publish Your Photos?
Q: I have a great Fourteener Photo, will Above the Timber publish my Photograph?
A: Sorry!!! Once upon-a-time Above the Timber had Reader Photos, intended to provide a venue for all Fourteener photos. The response was so dismal that it was dropped.

More Publish Your Photos?
Q: Does Above the Timber accept submissions from photographers for Books & Calendars?
A: Not for single photographs, possibly entire projects. The key question to ask is whether you are interested or passionate?
Interested, willing to spend someone else's money on your project.
Passionate, willing to spend your money on your project.
For a book, the price of passion starts at  ~$20,000.  Needless to say, passion is highly prized.

Employment

Q: I want to work for Above the Timber, what do I need to do?
A: Above the Timber was started as a one man company with this simple philosophy: "Never work for another person, Never have someone work for you." This philosophy is ignored for four-legged-fur-balls who seldom speak and have sad eyes. The current such critter is Piñon, a fifty pound bundle of unlimited energy.

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